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Courtroom exchange between U.S. District Judge
Charles Breyer
(THE COURT) and the defendant, Ed Rosenthal - 5/22/07
THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Rosenthal, you have obviously heard
your counsel's decision that he does not wish to call any
witnesses.
ED ROSENTHAL: My problem with this case, Your Honor, is that
I believe that the prosecutor is acting more like a judge
and you are acting more like a prosecutor. I would like to
bring my case. My case is that this is selective prosecution,
that this was done because of political reasons, and that
I am being selected out because of my advocacy, whereas somebody
like Bob Martin, who cooperates with the Government in going
after marijuana users, marijuana producers, and other marijuana
suppliers, is given a privilege thing.
I would like to continue the case with the witnesses that
we have already announced that we would like to have. And
since you have precluded those witnesses, which is the main
part of the case, from testifying, there is no reason for
anybody to testify.
Thank you.
(Witness returns to counsel table.)
THE COURT: Mr. Rosenthal, stay there, please. Now, you say
that I have a precluded the witnesses. If I permit those witnesses
to come forward, do you want them called?
ED ROSENTHAL: I would like the witnesses that my attorneys
have asked to testify before the jury, not before you.
THE COURT: Okay. And do you want --
ED ROSENTHAL: For the body of the case. And the body of the
case is that this is selective prosecution. And that -- and
that I have been selected out because of that, and also that
the Government actually has been in a Rico -- and we would
like to call Mr. Bevan as well, that the Government has actually
been in a Rico situation with Bob Martin.
And we have been precluded from tendering our theory of the
case.
THE COURT: Mr. Rosenthal, do you want to testify in your case?
ED ROSENTHAL: No, I would like to bring the witnesses that
we would like to testify in that case because I would be precluded
from testifying. You would stop me, just as you have done
to every other witness when it hasn't -- when it hasn't been
in the Government's interest.
THE COURT: Okay. ED ROSENTHAL: I believe that you are prejudiced.
I believe that you should step down. And I believe that this
is a mistrial.
Thank you.
(Witness returns to counsel table.)
THE COURT: Mr. Rosenthal, please stay there.
ED ROSENTHAL: I would rather not.
THE COURT: No, Mr. Rosenthal, I need to ask you a question.
If I permit you to testify --
ED ROSENTHAL: No. I want my witnesses. I have a perfect right
to testify, I understand that. I want my witnesses to testify.
THE COURT: Counsel --
ED ROSENTHAL: If you are not going to give me my witnesses,
I'm not putting on a case.
THE COURT: Okay.
Now, Mr. Rosenthal, if I allow you to testify and say whatever
you want to say without any limitation, without any -- freely,
that is to say, you may say anything you want to in your defense
on the stand, do you wish to do so?
ED ROSENTHAL: Only if I can bring corroborating witnesses.
THE COURT: Okay, then I would like your counsel -- I would
like you to spend a moment with your counsel --
ED ROSENTHAL: I would need a day to think about it, Your Honor.
I can't think about this. I can't give you an answer right
now because I need 24 hours to think about it.
MR. AMPARÁN: May I propose witnesses to the Court to
see what the Court's reaction would be?
THE COURT: Any witnesses that you --
MR. AMPARÁN: Supervisor Nate Miley.
THE COURT: Any witness -- then I need to know what Mr. --
ED ROSENTHAL: Mr. Miley is -- I'll tell you what Mr. Miley
is going to say. He is going to say that I was an officer
of the City, and I was allowed by the City to grow marijuana
and to provide it to patients, and also that I was told by
the City Attorney that I was free from prosecution.
MR. AMPARÁN: We would also call Barbara Parker, City
Attorney for the City of Oakland, who would testify that Mr.
Rosenthal was advised that as a deputy of the City of Oakland,
he would be shielded from things like Mr. Bevan and his prosecution
in Federal Court.
We would also like to call people from the Medical Marijuana
Working Group from Oakland that discussed the issues about
the legalization of medical marijuana, setting up Oakland
-- setting up the policies and procedures that Mr. Rosenthal
was advocating, such as for the employment of welfare mothers
in Oakland for high-paying salaried positions with benefits
and taxing and regulating medical marijuana on a state and
federal level.
ED ROSENTHAL: We would also like to call DEA Agent Steele
(phonetic) who specifically gave SAMM [Sonoma Alliance for
Medical Marijuana] permission and said that they would not
be harassed.
MR. AMPARÁN: We could call the testimony of Joe DeVries,
Nate Miley's assistant. At the time Nate Miley was the committee
chair of the public safety committee of Oakland. Joe DeVries
was his head aide in response to health and safety legislation
and public safety legislation, and that he was with Mr. Rosenthal,
that he went to the Mandela Parkway grow site, and that everything
that was done was conducted properly and under the auspices
of Prop -- the medical marijuana law and the Oakland ordinance
that was drafted and passed in open session authorizing Mr.
Rosenthal to conduct --
ED ROSENTHAL: We would also like to call Mr. Bevan to show
that he was in a RICO kind of arrangement with Bob Martin
and was actually violating federal law when he was doing that.
THE COURT: So your offer of proof -- well, let's --
ED ROSENTHAL: Our offer of proof will be without a proffer.
THE COURT: So, Mr. Rosenthal, let's -- let me ask this question:
If I don't permit these individuals just identified by your
attorney to testify on the subjects that your attorney has
indicated that he wants those people to testify, but would
permit you to testify about any of those subjects and anything
you want to say, do you or do you not want to testify?
ED ROSENTHAL: Well, if I mention somebody like Nate Miley,
can I get Nate Miley here to corroborate that what I said
is correct?
THE COURT: The answer is I don't know. I need to know --
ED ROSENTHAL: Well, I need to know.
THE COURT: Oh.
ED ROSENTHAL: I can't -- I can't -- if you are not going to
make a decision, then I can't make a decision.
THE COURT: I've made a decision. Do you want to hear the decision?
ED ROSENTHAL: Yes.
THE COURT: You can testify about anything you want to testify
without --
ED ROSENTHAL: Can Mr. Miley testify?
THE COURT: Why don't you listen to me. -- without any restriction
at all. This is your defense, and whether or not it's legally
admissible is not of concern. You may testify to anything
you wish.
Now, that is what you can do. With respect to witnesses, other
witnesses, other than yourself, the Court would rule as follows:
As to those individuals that were just recited by your counsel,
and as to the testimony those people would give, that is inadmissible.
It's inadmissible because the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals
affirmed the orders of the Court, which in the first case
ruled it to be inadmissible, and it's now the law of the case.
As to the other items of testimony that was contained in the
proffer of proof, that was filed by your counsel at the beginning
of the trial, much of that would be admissible, if, in fact,
you want to call those individuals.
So that is what the situation is.
ED ROSENTHAL: Well, I would like to know whether I could call
Mr. Bevan?
THE COURT: Okay. That would depend, of course, on what Mr.
Bevan would say and whether or not it would be relevant to
the determination.
ED ROSENTHAL: Don't you think that it would be better for
us not to warn Mr. Bevan of what we would be asking him?
THE COURT: Fine.
ED ROSENTHAL: So we would like to call him in front of the
jury and then see what happens.
THE COURT: You are entitled to make an offer of proof outside
of Mr. Bevan's presence as to what he would testify to and
why it would be relevant to this determination. And I would
listen to that.
ED ROSENTHAL: Well --
THE COURT: If that is what you want to do.
ED ROSENTHAL: Unless we say -- unless I firmly know who I
can actually have as a witness, I'm not going to play in this
kangaroo charade court, which is exactly what this is, because
you are just not letting the full story out. And if you are
not letting the full story out, it's not worth doing.
It's just like a Soviet Stalinist trial of comrades, you know?
Why don't you just call me Comrade and then send me off to
hang? Because that's basically what you are doing, in terms
of letting the Government full sway and not allowing us to
present any kind of evidence that we want.
We have a right to our theory of the case. And if you don't
like the theory of the case, you are not the judge of this.
The jury should be the judge of it, what the theory of the
case is.
Just because -- just because the Government has said that
it doesn't want me to present that theory of the case, doesn't
mean that I don't have a right to present any theory of the
case that I want.
I do have that right. And you are not allowing me that right.
You are not allowing me the witnesses that I have that would
prove my case. And you are allowing somebody who has been
-- where is he -- here he is -- who has been involved in a
RICO conspiracy for the past four years to just go with his
smile and smirks and all of this, nasty -- his nasty expressions,
go to the jury without admonishing him for it.
It just shows -- it shows what kind of court this is. My participation
in it, I want to limit it because I know that you are -- I
believe that you, by your previous actions, are working with
the prosecutor hand in hand.
THE COURT: Okay. Well, the decision you have to make is whether
or not you wish to testify.
ED ROSENTHAL: Well, I'm saying if I testify I would want corroborating
witnesses. If you are not going to allow me the corroborating
witnesses, then there is no sense in me testifying.
THE COURT: That's up to you.
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